LOLOL...Sorry I must've missed the bat signal.
lol......it was shining bright last night you might have missed, no wait, that was the Munsters.....oops
i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.
she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!
lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.
LOLOL...Sorry I must've missed the bat signal.
lol......it was shining bright last night you might have missed, no wait, that was the Munsters.....oops
i hope i am posting in the right board.. anyway, i am newly out of the org, and have a dear friend who i've been speaking to all along about my thought process/decisions.
she has been hesitantly receptive (how's that for confusing?!
lol) and when i brought up 607bce to her yesterday, she was truly intrigued and had not heard of this as a false date before.. she is still half in/half out, so i know she isn't going to do a lot of naughty independent research on her own.
17 All the generations, then, from Abraham until David were fourteen generations, and from David until the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon until the Christ fourteen generations.
Most historical records base the fall of Jerusalem around 587-588 B.C.E. which is different from 607 B.C.E. A group called The "Bible Students" seperated themselves from the W.T.S. over a disagreement in the time period. They stated that the W.T.S. was 20 years off from what historical records proved.
http://www.heraldmag.org/2004_history/04history_7.htm
Try this on for size:
Abraham to David 588 years =14 Generations
David to Deportation 588 years = 14 Generations
Deportation to Christ 588 years = 14 Generations
There are 90 Generations from Abraham to the year 2016 which is 3780 years
So 42 Generations from Abraham to Christ using 42 years for One Generation, which is around the birth period of a female.
"Although 51 is the median age for most healthy women to reach a cessation in their menstrual cycle, many women begin having subtle symptoms in the early 40's. The facts are that hormones begin to drop at this time in a woman's life which accounts for irregular cycles throughout the 40+ years."
Birth Pangs of distress, Birth of the Kingdom, etc etc. If you notice in the bible most time periods are based upon giving birth, or nine months, 42 months, etc. etc. So time periods can be relative to these numbers.
t.f.d.s.
im looking for some new insight on some thoughts of mine.
jw's do not beleive in hell.
hell fire is symbolic i was always taught.
Pick out one topic because what you have stated can cover many. Like for instance lets begin with the beginning, Adam and Eve. Is the fruit they ate of symbolic or literal?
This has been brought out before where as death is a condition and it was thrown into the lake of fire therefore the fire is symbolic. Wickedness will be put to death forever is true as only righteousness will dwell in The Kingdom of GOD.
t.f.d.s.
sorry if this has been posted before but what do we know about the true faith jehovah's witnesses?
are they only in romania?
how do their numbers compare to actual jws?.
A "True" faith is one that is based upon complete truth. How many people do you know of on the planet earth have a complete understanding of the bible?
The answer is "none" unless you could prove otherwise which I know you cannot.
t.f.d.s.
when i first got on this site, i would bristle at the thought that i ever belonged to a cult.. do you believe that witnesses are truly "cultists"?.
The "End Times" is considered the end of the world, and it has been taking place according to what has been written. And after the "Good News" of The Kingdom has been preached throughout the entire inhabited earth, then the end will come.......
Only Jesus Christ and the twelve apostles have authority to preach because they know the complete "Truth". Any religion that says GOD is going to destroy the wicked at Armagedon are misleading the people. Jesus Christ is our savior,not destroyer.
t.f.d.s.
ok, you read the topic so ask me and i will tell you as long as it is not too personal.
only sincere questions will get a response.. t.f.d.s..
Goats:
sooner7nc
outlaw
bohm
trueblue
out at last
jwoods
finally-free
ok, you read the topic so ask me and i will tell you as long as it is not too personal.
only sincere questions will get a response.. t.f.d.s..
what about exposing the lies and dishonesty of the WTS?
Those upon this forum have stood up for truth and therefore I was directed to write here. If you can expose a teaching of any religion with proof, then it is a good and nobel thing. GOD admonishes those that stand up for truth. I have also posted here on this forum because the W.T.S. lays claim to my title in the highest extent of any other religion.
They also have good teachings and are more accurate above any other religion. It is true they have misled their followers and GOD will sift out their intent and punish their intentional acts accordingly.
t.f.d.s.
ok, you read the topic so ask me and i will tell you as long as it is not too personal.
only sincere questions will get a response.. t.f.d.s..
If the current FDS is *Annointed*, who, of the previous *Annointed* did they take out?
Here is my theory: There are only to be 144,000, correct? So, Jehovah has 144,000 spots to fill. He has had them picked out forever, one can assume (I know, I know!) But, he is God and all, so he should have this all figured out. There should be no changes.
However, since the new crop of FDS seems to be young, how can they still be alive and kicking when there were people claiming to be of the *Annointed* and of the 144,000 back in 1914? I have 3 relatives who are of the *Annointed* and they, presumably, are up there, sitting on Jah's right hand, looking down on me typing this.
Smiling, no doubt.
So, how does this fuzzy math work? How does the Generation keep changing and how does the 144,000 keep living and living? And changing and changing?
I was afraid to ask, but, SoM, you've made me feel so comfortable. Thank you.
FYI, this is a sincere question. My JW Mom is clueless on this.
The only ones that make it into heaven are the 12 apostles.
14 The wall of the city also had twelve foundation stones, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
No other humans will go into heaven for their dwelling place is upon the earth. Where is it written that the slave is more than one person? Where does it say that the slave consists of a group of 144,000?
t.f.d.s.
ok, you read the topic so ask me and i will tell you as long as it is not too personal.
only sincere questions will get a response.. t.f.d.s..
well SoM I must be a goat according to you and the Devil inspired Aposatcy of a paedophile condoning publishing company, but luckily not according to our redeemer JC
If you act wicked, you are a goat it is written. Being wicked is as simple as bringing ridicule to another person.......a Christian does not act like a wicked person but as a sheep.
t.f.d.s.
ok, you read the topic so ask me and i will tell you as long as it is not too personal.
only sincere questions will get a response.. t.f.d.s..
Exactly how do you qualify as the FDS? [cant leave]
45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU , He will appoint him over all his belongings.
[The above scripture asks: who really is the slave. This gives way to the questioning of those that claim to be the slave. I am a witness to all that occurs in the heavens and dispense information, or food to those that have been chosen. I have posted here for many years and you could look up all that has been posted. I have also met those that have been chosen in my personal experiences. I am introduced to them by GOD, and HE instructs me as to my reason for meeting them. I have seen what people experience in this world first hand, so I know and am aware of what is being learned by those in the heavens, namely Jesus Christ and the twelve apostles. How can one councel another if they do not know what they experience?]
48 “But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.
I was in anticipation of the world coming to its end when I was first chosen. However it was delayed so to speak and all that I have learned comes without warning. This is so I can experience true emotion instead of just reading about it. From GOD's standpoint and those that know, it is not being delayed as the timing of it all is known only by The Father. I have met my fellow slaves and act according to what is necessary for each one, and also have mingled with worldy people. I have been through a literal battle with wicked demons and even the most wicked, satan the devil. Weeping is what we experience out of sorrow for the afflicted, and gnashing of teethe is the anger we experience against the wicked.
I am a true descendant of Abraham out of the tribe of Levi. The seed of Abraham through Ishmael.......I am the True Slave